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		<title>&#8220;Keep Christ In Christmas&#8221;&#8230;.say what???</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Christmas…that wonderful season of decorated trees, unbridled commercialism and the intense need to spend, spend, spend to fulfill every whim of people who probably don’t think about gift-giving except for the last month of the year. I don’t celebrate Christmas. I don’t “keep Christ in Christmas”. I refuse to get swept up in the materialism [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=retirednavywife.wordpress.com&amp;blog=10960052&amp;post=69&amp;subd=retirednavywife&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christmas…that wonderful season of decorated trees, unbridled commercialism and the intense need to spend, spend, spend to fulfill every whim of people who probably don’t think about gift-giving except for the last month of the year.<br />
I don’t celebrate Christmas. I don’t “keep Christ in Christmas”. I refuse to get swept up in the materialism and forced cheer. Just call me Scrooge!<br />
Christians go looney this time of year…they refuse to say “Happy Holidays” and force “Merry Christmas” down everyone’s throat. Not me…no thanks.<br />
December 25th is NOT “Jesus’ birthday”. If one carefully reads the biblical accounts, it seems more believable that Jesus was born in the spring. Jerusalem is quite cold in the winter, and I doubt that there would have been people traveling during the winter. The shepherds were out in the fields, not something that would happen in the winter in the hills around Jerusalem and Bethlehem. It’s rather chilly! http://www.jerusalem-insiders-guide.com/weather-in-jerusalem.html<br />
Christmas was co-opted from the Roman celebration of Saturnalia. The trees come from the German celebrations of Yule. http://www.history.com/topics/history-of-christmas-trees<br />
So…the whole idea is NOT Christian…at all. Why do Christians celebrate it?<br />
I can buy into the idea of celebrating the birth of Christ…to a point. That point is where there is no biblical support for it. The early Christians celebrated the Lord’s supper, to commemorate the supper in the Upper room before the crucifixion where Jesus said “do this in remembrance of me” (Luke 22:19). They dedicated Sunday to the Lord, again following that the resurrection was on a Sunday. (Luke 24:1).<br />
So, because there is no biblical support for “Christmas”, I see no reason to celebrate it as anything other than a fun time to be with family and friends, eat until I explode and enjoy the day. I have not “decorated” nor sent cards or any of that other stuff in years. Yes, I buy gifts for some of the family who do not agree with me, or see it as a secular holiday of fun. No, I don’t expect any gifts to be given to me, for me the fun is in the giving not the getting.<br />
I realize I may be outside the “mainstream” of Christianity with this, but it’s ok. I’m so far out the mainstream on so many things that I couldn’t tell you where that body of water is. I’m finishing my undergrad degree in Religion at a school that is known to be quite conservative, almost fundamentalist, in many ways. I respect many of the professors there who have impeccable credentials and are well known, however, I do not necessarily agree with their ideas or interpretations 100%. There are many things that I believe them to be off base about, and many things that I think they are right on target about. But, that’s fodder for another post…</p>
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		<title>Thoughts on &#8220;Christmas&#8221;&#8230;coming soon&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 17:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a whole lot of thoughts on the allegedly &#8220;christian&#8221; celebration of Christmas&#8230;as soon as I get this last paper out of the way, I&#8217;ll be back.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=retirednavywife.wordpress.com&amp;blog=10960052&amp;post=67&amp;subd=retirednavywife&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a whole lot of thoughts on the allegedly &#8220;christian&#8221; celebration of Christmas&#8230;as soon as I get this last paper out of the way, I&#8217;ll be back.</p>
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		<title>John 8:58</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John 8:58 &#8211; “Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.” This statement of Jesus’ was said at the end of a passage that starts with the woman caught in adultery.  Jesus also states that “I Am the light of the world” here. The Pharisees heard him [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=retirednavywife.wordpress.com&amp;blog=10960052&amp;post=64&amp;subd=retirednavywife&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John 8:58 &#8211; “Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I<br />
say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.”</p>
<p>This<br />
statement of Jesus’ was said at the end of a passage that starts with the woman<br />
caught in adultery.  Jesus also states<br />
that “I Am the light of the world” here. The Pharisees heard him and started<br />
getting angry as they heard his words. He says “I AM…” many times, equating himself<br />
with the Father (Exodus 3:14), using the Greek form of the Hebrew words found<br />
in Exodus. In Hebrew, “hayah” and in Greek “ego eimi” are the words used by God<br />
in Exodus 3:14. The Greek form, “ego eimi” is used in John. The Pharisees were<br />
well aware of this.</p>
<p>In<br />
this particular verse (vs.58), Jesus is telling the Pharisees that he existed<br />
before Abraham and goes on to tell them that Abraham rejoiced to see his day. “The<br />
claim to be in existence before Abraham is either delusion or a statement that<br />
the speaker was sovereign over time.” (Morris 1989)<br />
The Pharisees could not understand what Jesus was saying there. They took it to<br />
mean someone who was delusional because, due to their spiritual blindness, they<br />
could not understand that Jesus was the Messiah.</p>
<p>This<br />
verse (John 8:58) is often used as the proof text of Jesus’ deity. The other “I<br />
AM” statements are more metaphor or simile. For example, “I AM the bread of<br />
life”. Jesus is not saying that he is a loaf of bread, but that He is the<br />
source of life. That statement was not a blatant claim of deity, unlike the<br />
claim Jesus makes in verse 58.</p>
<p>John 8:48-59 in context:</p>
<p><strong>Jesus’<br />
Claims About Himself</strong></p>
<p><sup>48</sup> The Jews answered him, “Aren’t we right in saying that you<br />
are a Samaritan and demon-possessed?”</p>
<p><sup>49</sup> “I am not possessed by a demon,” said Jesus, “but I honor<br />
my Father and you dishonor me. <sup>50</sup> I am not seeking glory for myself;<br />
but there is one who seeks it, and he is the judge. <sup>51</sup> Very truly I<br />
tell you, whoever obeys my word will never see death.”</p>
<p><sup>52</sup> At this they exclaimed, “Now we know that you are<br />
demon-possessed! Abraham died and so did the prophets, yet you say that whoever<br />
obeys your word will never taste death. <sup>53</sup> Are you greater than our<br />
father Abraham? He died, and so did the prophets. Who do you think you are?”</p>
<p><sup>54</sup> Jesus replied, “If I glorify myself, my glory means<br />
nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me. <sup>55</sup><br />
Though you do not know him, I know him. If I said I did not, I would be a liar<br />
like you, but I do know him and obey his word. <sup>56</sup> Your father<br />
Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad.”</p>
<p><sup>57</sup> “You are not yet fifty years old,” they said to him, “and<br />
you have seen Abraham!”</p>
<p><sup>58</sup> “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham<br />
was born, <strong>I am </strong>(emphasis added)!” <sup>59</sup><br />
At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping<br />
away from the temple grounds.  (NIV)</p>
<p>The Pharisees were questioning<br />
Jesus regarding His statement that Abraham was glad to see His day (vs. 56). Jesus<br />
did not explain to them exactly when Abraham saw his day, so according to<br />
Towns, there are seven possible explanations for this. One is that the Jews<br />
believed that Abraham was living in paradise at the time and could see events<br />
on earth. Another is the theophany that Abraham experienced when Jehovah<br />
appeared to him and warned him of the destruction of Sodom. “Since Christ has<br />
all judgment (John 5:30) and this was a physical appearance of Jehovah (He<br />
ate), then it must have been Christ whom Abraham saw”. (Towns 2002)</p>
<p>The Pharisees went to stone Jesus (vs. 59)<br />
because they understood what Jesus was claiming, and since they were blind to<br />
this, they equated his statement to blasphemy. The punishment for blasphemy was<br />
death by stoning. Jesus was making an explicit claim to deity here and the<br />
Pharisees could not or would not tolerate this. It is the statement that sets<br />
the stage for the rest of Jesus’ persecution by the Pharisees.</p>
<p>Jesus makes quite clear his claim<br />
to deity here. The wording is exactly the same as in the Old Testament. In<br />
Exodus 3:14, God tells Moses that he is the pre-existent deity who has been<br />
around before time. He is the creator of the universe and life. In John 1, the<br />
same claims are made for Jesus. “In the beginning was the Word and the Word was<br />
with God and the Word was God” (John 1:1).  The Pharisees could not see that prophesy had<br />
been fulfilled in Jesus. They were under the mistaken impression he was a<br />
Galilean and immediately discarded the prophesy that the Messiah would be born<br />
in Bethlehem, the City of David (Micah 5:2). They were supposed to be the<br />
“scholars”, like the Talmudic scholars of today, yet they were blinded to the<br />
truth.</p>
<p>In the time that Jesus lived, one<br />
who came in the “name” of another or someone acting as the agent of their<br />
master was considered to be the same as their master. Jesus did this. He<br />
claimed that “I and the Father are one”. This is also a statement that Jesus<br />
was acting as the Father’s agent on earth, able to do the same things, entitled<br />
to the same rights. So, when Jesus claimed that before Abraham was “I AM”, he<br />
was implicitly stating, in line with his other claims that he had come in the<br />
stead of the Father, that they were one in purpose and ability. Jesus had all<br />
the abilities of the father at his disposal to use or not use as he saw fit.</p>
<p>Today there are many religions<br />
that also do not see the truth of this statement. Some of them have altered<br />
their “bibles” to cloud this. For example, The New World Translation used by<br />
the Jehovah’s Witnesses translates this verse as “Jesus said to them: “Most<br />
truly I say to you; Before Abraham came into existence, I have been.” (Society 1984) This is an<br />
intentional slight to cover the reference back to Exodus 3:14, to suit their<br />
particular beliefs as to who Jesus Christ is.</p>
<p>Jesus’ claim to deity is the<br />
cornerstone of faith in Him, even beyond the resurrection. Jesus is the<br />
fulfillment of all the Old Testament prophesies. He is the eternal Word, He is<br />
the Alpha and Omega (Revelation 21:12). Jesus statement that “I AM” in John<br />
8:58 lays out his deity, his mission and his power. He is the same as the<br />
Father, the eternal Word, the only begotten son, the agent of creation. As the<br />
Nicene Creed states “one in being with the Father. Through Him all things were<br />
made”. Jesus’ claims to deity are undeniable. The question then becomes what<br />
mankind is going to do about that statement.</p>
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		<title>Some thoughts on the millennium</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Revelation 20:1-6 (NASB) 1 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold of the dragon, the serpent of old, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; 3 and he threw him [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=retirednavywife.wordpress.com&amp;blog=10960052&amp;post=62&amp;subd=retirednavywife&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Revelation 20:1-6 (NASB)</p>
<p><sup>1</sup> Then<br />
I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding the key of the abyss and a<br />
great chain in his hand. And he laid hold of the dragon, the serpent of old,<br />
who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; <sup>3</sup><br />
and he threw him into the abyss, and shut <em>it</em> and sealed <em>it</em> over<br />
him, so that he would not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand<br />
years were completed; after these things he must be released for a short time.</p>
<p><sup>4</sup><br />
Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I<br />
<em>saw</em> the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony<br />
of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the<br />
beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on<br />
their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.<br />
<sup>5</sup> The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years<br />
were completed. This is the first resurrection. <sup>6</sup> Blessed and holy<br />
is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second<br />
death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will<br />
reign with Him for a thousand years.</p>
<p>Introduction</p>
<p>The “end times” have always<br />
been a source of wonderment, research and contention in Christianity.  It can be shown in the writings of the early<br />
Church Fathers that the early Church was pre-millennial and held to the literal<br />
thousand-year reign of Christ. Justin Martyr, Irenaeus and Augustine (in his<br />
early days) were all believers in a literal 1,000-year reign of Christ after<br />
the Tribulation times. Irenaeus gave evidence he believed in a literal<br />
Tribulation and a literal Millennial reign in his <em>Adversus haereses: </em>“For in as many days as this world was made, in<br />
so many thousand years shall it be concluded…For the day of the Lord is as a<br />
thousand years…” (Irenaeus n.d.) Augustine, in his<br />
work City of God, states “But while<br />
the devil is bound, the saints reign with Christ during the same thousand<br />
years, understood in the same way, that is, of the time of His first coming.” (Augustine<br />
n.d.)<br />
Later, the church divided into three separate camps regarding the thousand-year<br />
reign of Christ.</p>
<p>Three Views of the Millennium</p>
<p>The<br />
three main views of the millennial reign of Christ are known as<br />
pre-millennialism, post-millennialism and amillennialism. Each of the three<br />
claim to have their basis in scripture and support their view with scripture.<br />
However, each one should be evaluated against what is actually written, not<br />
just in Revelation 20:1-6, but in other passages such as 1 Thessalonians<br />
4:13-17, Isaiah 65:17- 25, Zephaniah 3:11-13, and Zechariah 9:9-10, 14:16-21.</p>
<p>Amillennialism</p>
<p>Amillennialism<br />
is the belief that there will not be a literal thousand-year reign of Christ.<br />
This is most popular in the Roman Catholic Church. Amillennialism is the belief<br />
that the world will stay the same and the kingdom of God will never arrive on<br />
earth within human history. Amillennialists do not believe that people should<br />
look for an earthly utopia. They believe that believers should focus on what<br />
Christ has already done and that He is already reigning on earth. There will be<br />
no rapture of believers as described in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17. This view<br />
takes Revelation 20: 1-6 as symbolic.</p>
<p>The book<br />
of Revelation is full of symbolic numbers. Obviously the number “thousand”<br />
which is used here must not be interpreted in a literal sense. Since the number<br />
ten signifies completeness, and since a thousand is ten to the third power, we<br />
may think of the expression “a thousand years” as standing for a complete<br />
period, a very long period of indeterminate length. In agreement with what was<br />
said above about the structure of the book and in the light of verses 7-15 of<br />
this very chapter (which describe Satan’s “little season,” the final battle and<br />
the final judgment), we may conclude that this thousand-year period extends<br />
from Christ’s first coming to just before his Second Coming. (Hoekema n.d.)</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Amillennialists believe that Satan<br />
is already bound using Matthew 12:29 as a reference. They believe that Satan is<br />
already hindered from acting in this present age because the Gospel is being<br />
spread throughout the world. They take much of prophesy as symbolic instead of<br />
literal.</p>
<p>This<br />
view comes from the allegorization of scripture interpretation as proposed by<br />
Origen of Alexandria. Augustine was exposed to this through the hermeneutics of<br />
Tyconius. Augustine’s change in eschatology was driven by his change in his<br />
soteriology where he came to understand Matthew 24:13 as meaning that salvation<br />
was not certain and one had to persevere in faith until the end of their<br />
physical life and then hope they would be saved. Amillennialism has been<br />
defined as the official Roman Catholic belief. From the Catechism of the<br />
Catholic Church, paragraph 676:</p>
<p>The Antichrist&#8217;s deception already begins to take<br />
shape in the world every time the claim is made to realize within history that<br />
messianic hope which can only be realized beyond history through the eschatological<br />
judgment. The Church has rejected even modified forms of this falsification of<br />
the kingdom to come under the name of millenarianism, especially the<br />
&#8220;intrinsically perverse&#8221; political form of a secular messianism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This belief does not speak at all<br />
to the return of Christ. There is no accounting for the role of Israel in the<br />
last days or who will enter into the kingdom. It seems to offer some sort of<br />
universal salvation to all men. It gives no timing for the return of Christ and<br />
seems to ignore other passages in scripture that speak to the rapture (1 Thess<br />
4:13-17) and tribulation times (Daniel 9:24-27) that would precede the<br />
millennium as written in Revelation and other prophetic passages. It ignores<br />
Matthew 24 where Jesus gives the signs of his return. It does not take into<br />
consideration that the seal, trumpet and bowl judgments are literal. All of<br />
Revelation has been spiritualized and symbolized. Amillennialism does not give<br />
any opinions on what the relationship between the Jews and Christians will be<br />
at the end of time, it seems to completely ignore the question. From the<br />
Catechism of the Catholic Church paragraphs 839-841:</p>
<p><a href="openWindow('cr/839.htm');"><strong>839</strong></a> &#8220;Those who have not yet received the Gospel are related to<br />
the People of God in various ways.&#8221;<sup>325</sup></p>
<p><em>The<br />
relationship of the Church with the Jewish People</em>. When she delves into her own mystery,<br />
the Church, the People of God in the New Covenant, discovers her link with the<br />
Jewish People,<sup>326</sup> &#8220;the first to hear the Word of God.&#8221;<sup>327</sup><br />
The Jewish faith, unlike other non-Christian religions, is already a response<br />
to God&#8217;s revelation in the Old Covenant. To the Jews &#8220;belong the sonship,<br />
the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises;<br />
to them belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is<br />
the Christ&#8221;,<sup>328</sup> &#8220;for the gifts and the call of God are<br />
irrevocable.&#8221;<sup>329</sup></p>
<p><strong><a href="openWindow('cr/840.htm');">840</a></strong> And when one<br />
considers the future, God&#8217;s People of the Old Covenant and the new People of<br />
God tend towards similar goals: expectation of the coming (or the return) of<br />
the Messiah. But one awaits the return of the Messiah who died and rose from<br />
the dead and is recognized as Lord and Son of God; the other awaits the coming<br />
of a Messiah, whose features remain hidden till the end of time; and the latter<br />
waiting is accompanied by the drama of not knowing or of misunderstanding Christ<br />
Jesus.</p>
<p><strong>841</strong> <em>The<br />
Church&#8217;s relationship with the Muslims</em>. &#8220;The plan of salvation also<br />
includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are<br />
the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us<br />
they adore the one, merciful God, mankind&#8217;s judge on the last day.&#8221;<sup>330</sup></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Postmillennialism</p>
<p>Postmillennialism<br />
is the belief that Christ’s literal return to earth after some period of time,<br />
after Christians have established the kingdom of God on earth. They believe<br />
that the human race will get better and better and by their own efforts they<br />
will usher in the Kingdom Age.</p>
<p>A definition of<br />
postmillennialism is as follows:</p>
<p>Postmillennialism<br />
expects the proclaiming of the Spirit-blessed gospel of Jesus Christ to win the<br />
vast majority of human beings to salvation in the present age. Increasing<br />
gospel success will gradually produce a time in history prior to Christ&#8217;s<br />
return in which faith, righteousness, peace, and prosperity will prevail in the<br />
affairs of people and of nations. After an extensive era of such conditions the<br />
Lord will return visibly, bodily, and in great glory, ending history with the<br />
general resurrection and the great judgement of all humankind. (Bock 1999,<br />
13)</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Postmillennialism<br />
believes that man can bring about the kingdom of God. The biblical basis for<br />
this belief is based on certain interpretations of passages such as Matthew<br />
13:32-33, 1 Corinthians 15:24, and others which seem to say that the kingdom<br />
will be spread by believers until the whole world has come to faith in Christ,<br />
then the end will come.</p>
<p>Once<br />
again, there is a picking, choosing of scripture passages, taking some<br />
literally and some figuratively, and ignoring others. This position ignores the<br />
descriptions of the end times in Matthew 24, the description of the Rapture in<br />
1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 and Daniel’s seventieth week in Daniel 9.</p>
<p>Postmillennialism<br />
gives no answer to the basic questions of the millennial kingdom. Again, there<br />
seems to be a belief that all of mankind will go into the Kingdom, to be sorted<br />
out into the sheep and the goats at the final judgment of Revelation 20:11-15.  It completely ignores or allegorizes the seal,<br />
trumpet and bowl judgments in Revelation 4-19 and the lack of mention of the<br />
church on earth during that time.</p>
<p>Premillennialism</p>
<p>Premillennialism<br />
is the belief in the literal return of Christ to reign and rule for a literal thousand-year<br />
period. This belief takes Revelation 20:1-6 literally. In summary, most premillennialists<br />
believe that at some unknown point in human history, all believers will be<br />
raptured to heaven as described in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 and that will usher<br />
in the rise of a literal Anti-Christ and a literal seven year tribulation<br />
period which is also known as Daniel’s Seventieth Week (Daniel 9:24-27) (LaHaye and<br />
Ice, Charting The End Times &#8211; A Visual Guide to Understanding Bible Prophesy<br />
2001, 128).</p>
<p>There are other<br />
views as to the timing of the Rapture. One group believes that the rapture will<br />
occur halfway through the tribulation period. Another believes the rapture will<br />
occur before the “great wrath”, that is, before the final defeat of<br />
Anti-Christ. Still others believe that there would be a “partial rapture” of<br />
only those believers who are faithful in the church. There is also the belief<br />
that believers will only be raptured after the tribulation. These views, while<br />
honestly held by some do not make sense when held to Daniel’s seventh week.</p>
<p>After the seven-year<br />
tribulation, as described by John in Revelation 4-19, Christ will return along<br />
with all the believers who were raptured and those who were martyred for their<br />
faith during the tribulation. There will be a remnant of believers who survive<br />
the tribulation who will witness Christ’s return. This belief was held by the<br />
early church that believed that Christ could truly return at any time, taking<br />
his words in Matthew 24:36 literally. Jesus says “But of that day and hour no<br />
one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.” (Matt<br />
24:36 NASB). The premillennial position is that Christ can return at any time,<br />
could have returned at any time in human history and there is nothing man can<br />
do to bring about the kingdom. Believers are cautioned throughout the New<br />
Testament to be ready for Christ’s return. Jesus gives this command in Matthew<br />
24:42-44 among other passages.</p>
<p>Premillennial<br />
believers take the plain meaning of the scriptures at their face value. It is<br />
understood that much of Revelation is written symbolically but those symbols<br />
have a certain meaning. Premillennialism has the only biblical answers to the<br />
key questions of Christ’s return. Christ will return visibly as told by the<br />
angel in Acts 1:11. The time of his return is unknown as stated in Matthew<br />
24:36 and Acts 1:6-7. The millennium will be exactly a thousand years as stated<br />
in Revelation 20:2, 3, 5 &amp; 6. At the end of the millennium, Satan will be<br />
released to attempt to turn the believers in the kingdom against Christ as<br />
stated in Revelation 20-7-9. In a careful reading of Revelation chapters 4-19,<br />
the church is never mentioned. This would lead one to believe that the church<br />
will not be on earth during the time of the judgments.</p>
<p>Conclusion</p>
<p>Premillennialism<br />
is the only position that takes all of prophesy into account. This position<br />
explains the “how, why, when, what and where” of Christ’s return. The Pre-Tribulation<br />
Rapture will set the events into motion. That will be at some unknown time.<br />
After the Rapture, there will be a seven-year tribulation period. At the end of<br />
the tribulation period, Christ will return with all the raptured believers and<br />
those who were martyred during the tribulation.</p>
<p>The other two<br />
positions, Amillennialism and Postmillennialism seem to ignore the plain truth<br />
of scripture. It takes a lot of manipulation, allegorizing and substituting<br />
symbols into what can and should be taken literally. The literary styles of<br />
each passage must be taken into account. As it has been said over and over,<br />
“when the plain sense makes sense, look for no other sense”. Also, when<br />
attempting to understand Scripture, the place to start is with other<br />
Scriptures. When one takes the prophesies from Daniel’s seventy weeks, the<br />
statements of Jesus in the Gospels, the writings of Paul and the other<br />
prophesies in Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Isaiah as a whole, the premillennial position<br />
is the only one that one can reasonably conclude holds any justification in<br />
scripture.</p>
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		<title>Where I&#8217;ve been&#8230;the last 14 years</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[1997, now X decided he didn’t want to be married to me anymore. My bio kids and I tossed out of the house literally. Drove down to see Teri, spent a wonderful week down there. Returned to Indiana to try to figure out what was going on. Kids and I landed in a homeless shelter [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=retirednavywife.wordpress.com&amp;blog=10960052&amp;post=59&amp;subd=retirednavywife&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1997, now X decided he didn’t want to be married to me<br />
anymore. My bio kids and I tossed out of the house literally. Drove down to see<br />
Teri, spent a wonderful week down there. Returned to Indiana to try to figure<br />
out what was going on. Kids and I landed in a homeless shelter (that sucked).<br />
Found a job, rented a little house until divorce was final. Dad was getting<br />
sicker so kids and I moved back to VA in August ’97.</p>
<p>Met my dh in September ’97. Turns out his sister and I used<br />
to hang out together many years ago. Married in October ’98. Dad died in May ’98.<br />
Went back to school in January ’99. Got an AAS in Drafting and design, worked<br />
at large shipyard until November 2010 when I got laid off.</p>
<p>Kids are now grown and gone. Amanda is 28 and is a guest of<br />
the Federal corrections system because she decided that working was for the<br />
little people. Various identity theft charges, mail fraud and drug charges.<br />
Should be released in Feb 2012. Before she got stupid she had 2 little girls<br />
who we had custody of for 4 years until their dad (good guy) got his stuff<br />
together enough to parent the little ones. They’re happily living in Colorado<br />
with their dad, stepmom and half brothers.</p>
<p>Joshua is 24, married and in the Army. He’s stationed at Ft.<br />
Carson, CO. Served 2 tours in Iraq. Probably will get deployed again some time<br />
next summer. His wife is Thai. She’s a real sweetie! They have a dog, Jack. No<br />
kids yet…we’ll see when they decide to have kids. No real rush.</p>
<p>Daniel is 21. Single and loving it! He’s also out in<br />
Colorado, I think he’s living in Boulder.</p>
<p>Dh and I have been through hell in a handbasket, but we’re<br />
still together. Separated for a  while in<br />
2009 while some issues got worked out. Got back together in late 2009. Still<br />
occasionally a little rocky, but much better than it used to be.</p>
<p>Mom had a stroke in 2006. She’s living with us. She’s<br />
totally disabled now and should be in a nursing home but due to some serious<br />
stupidity on her part she can’t get the help she needs. Trying to get it all<br />
fixed but really pissed that this has been dumped in my lap. Still can’t stand<br />
her.</p>
<p>Currently unemployed AGAIN! Working on a bachelor’s in<br />
Religion. Should graduate in 2012.</p>
<p>That’s the last 14 years in a nutshell!</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is often said, as an objection to becoming a Christian that “a loving God would not condemn people to hell”. Throughout scripture, it is not God who condemns, but self. In the Old Testament, God orders the Israelites to wipe out certain peoples. This is seen as a move by a vindictive god who [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=retirednavywife.wordpress.com&amp;blog=10960052&amp;post=56&amp;subd=retirednavywife&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is often said, as an objection to becoming a Christian that “a loving God would not condemn people to hell”. Throughout scripture, it is not God who condemns, but self. In the Old Testament, God orders the Israelites to wipe out certain peoples. This is seen as a move by a vindictive god who delights in the bloodshed of innocents. However, a more careful reading of the text and understanding of the cultures of that time refutes that view. God, by ordering the Israelites to annihilate a certain people, is ensuring that these people do not turn around and conquer His chosen people. Translating that to the “eternal damnation” warned about in the New Testament, it is not God that chooses to send people, it is the people themselves who choose, knowingly and willingly to reject Christ and eternal life, and accept the punishment in store for them for that rejection.</p>
<p>Some religions, such as the Jehovah’s Witnesses, reject this biblical view. They preach a view known as annhiliationism, where existence just ceases. They use Ecclesiastes 9:5 as their proof text that there is no consciousness in the afterlife.  For the ones who are “saved”, they will eventually be restored to a paradise, the rest just are gone. There is no real consequence for rejecting their version of salvation. Others embrace a view called universalism, where eventually, everyone will end up in an afterlife of paradise. This is also unbiblical and flies in the face of many scriptures, such as Matthew 10:28. Roman Catholics embrace a form of universalism with their teaching of “purgatory”, an intermediate place where a soul undergoes purification, usually through prayers being offered by the living for that particular soul.</p>
<p>Sheol, Gehenna and Hades are three names for various forms of the underworld. Sheol is described in the Old Testament as a subterranean region where the dead exist only as shadows. It is mentioned in Genesis 37:35 among other places. People in Sheol are not beyond redemption, as shown in Psalm 18 and in Psalm 86. . Hades as the abode of the underworld was borrowed from the Greeks who believed in an active afterlife and the concept of reward or damnation. In Greek mythology, Hades was the god of the underworld and the name of his abode. Gehenna, as a reference to an eternal punishment in fire, comes from the trash dump outside Jerusalem where the fires burning the refuse never went out. It is also the word translated as hell in some modern translations of the bible. It is seen as the place of eternal punishment for the wicked and unsaved, including the final place of Satan after the day of judgment. To modern Christians, Gehenna or hell is what is normally thought of as the opposite of heaven. It is understood to be the current abode of the devil and his demons.</p>
<p>I believe the bible is clear on the final destination of the unsaved. There are only two choices that man can make in his life regarding his eternal destination, heaven, where he will be with Christ for eternity, basking in Christ’s light and glory, or hell, where the fire never goes out, tortured for eternity with Satan and his demons. In the gospels, hell as a destination of torture is mentioned repeatedly. Matthew and Luke mention hell as the final resting place of the wicked. Matthew 25:46 is the clearest declaration of eternal punishment for unbelievers and the wicked; “And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal”. Contrast this with Paul’s statement in Romans that whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved (Rom 10:13).</p>
<p>Believing that the unsaved will end up in hell is not terribly popular in today’s world of “tolerance”. It is seen as quite judgmental and “unchristian”. The only time I have been challenged on my biblical stance was by a member of the family who is a Jehovah’s Witness. That was an “argument” I knew I could not “win” as they are well trained to answer any objection I had and counter any scriptural reference I could give, usually by changing the subject. For non-Christians, being told that their rejection of Christ will lead to their eternal damnation usually upsets and horrifies them, but not to the point where they are willing to change their stance on Christ, they prefer to reject Him as unloving, because “how could such a loving God condemn someone?”. I find it necessary to tell them that it is not God doing the condemning, they are condemning themselves by rejecting Christ’s invitation to eternal life.</p>
<p>Fairness has nothing to do with a person’s eternal destination. Each person makes that decision for themselves. Each person has the opportunity to open their hearts to Christ and embrace the forgiveness and redemption He offers. However, there are those who are hard-hearted, who do not want to give up their lifestyle, who think that becoming a Christian is to embrace intolerance, bigotry, hatred, a bunch of rules and regulations that they just do not want to obey. The unsaved do not understand that once they become Christians, they embrace freedom. Freedom to be who God wants them to be, freedom from sins that are dragging them down.</p>
<p>In today’s culture, the doctrines of hell make it difficult to evangelize, due to reasons listed above. However, once a person comes to understand that fundamentally God does not “send” them to hell, and they have the opportunity to avoid that fate, they will usually embrace the gospel whole-heartedly. I know I did.</p>
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		<title>Some random thoughts from my Philosophy class</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 00:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There were 3 questions we had to answer&#8230; What are some ways the Christian gospel is perceived in our culture? The gospel is often seen as restrictive, out of touch with culture, or exclusive. Often Christians are seen as hypocrites, intolerant, judgmental and fake. Some of the well-known televangelists have been exposed as charlatans, hucksters [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=retirednavywife.wordpress.com&amp;blog=10960052&amp;post=53&amp;subd=retirednavywife&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were 3 questions we had to answer&#8230;</p>
<p>What are some ways the Christian gospel is perceived in our culture?</p>
<p>The gospel is often seen as restrictive, out of touch with culture, or exclusive. Often Christians are seen as hypocrites, intolerant, judgmental and fake. Some of the well-known televangelists have been exposed as charlatans, hucksters and fakes. This all gives Christianity a bad name and makes it difficult to witness, when the unsaved don’t see any benefit in being identified with such a group.</p>
<p>What are some specific reasons (moral, emotional and intellectual) that people reject the Christian gospel?</p>
<p>People reject the gospel because of many moral reasons such as their sexual preferences, marital status or political beliefs. Christianity demands adherence to a certain moral code that some people believe is outmoded, or intolerant. Christians are seen as judgmental and unwilling to earn the right to be heard because of their attitudes. Many Christians will not willingly dialog with someone who lives a different lifestyle than they do.</p>
<p>Intellectually, Christianity is seen as opposed to any sort of intellectual study. Most of the bible is seen as a fairy tale or mythology, and many people are unwilling to take a hard look at the secular, corroborating evidence for Christ’s life, death and resurrection. Culturally, Christians are seen as unintelligent, believing in something that has no basis in fact.</p>
<p>Emotionally, Christianity can be hard to grasp, especially for those who aren’t able to understand a Father’s unconditional love. That alone can be a huge barrier to the gospel. To understand that there is Someone who loves you more than you’ll ever know is something that is so difficult for so many people (myself included).  However, when a person comes to that understanding, they tend to just totally go all out, all in!</p>
<p>What can Christians do to address these objections and better communicate the Christian gospel?</p>
<p>Christians need to distance themselves from the strident isolationists, the loudly judgmental, the hucksters, the fakes. We need to have our actions speak louder than our words. Like the apostles before us, we need to earn the right to be heard, by being a part of society, by loving those who may still be in sin, like Jesus did. We should endeavor to more closely follow the one we claim as Savior and Lord. Simply condemning people, acting unloving and no better than the lost will not overcome the objections of the world. On one hand, we must keep our witness pure, but not by acting like we are “too good” to be around the rest of the world. We are to be light and salt to a lost and dying world. Like St. Francis of Assisi said, “Preach the gospel at all times, use words if necessary”.</p>
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		<title>Random Thoughts&#8230;.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 22:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had the blessing of being able to attend a women’s VBS here where I live. The bible study really hit me hard…the scripture readings seemed to be talking directly to me! The theme for the study came from Psalm 18, verses 1-3. After the events of the past few years, where there were so [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=retirednavywife.wordpress.com&amp;blog=10960052&amp;post=49&amp;subd=retirednavywife&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the blessing of being able to attend a women’s VBS here where I live. The bible study really hit me hard…the scripture readings seemed to be talking directly to me! The theme for the study came from Psalm 18, verses 1-3.</p>
<p>After the events of the past few years, where there were so many things that were tearing my marriage apart, it seemed as though God reached down and restored everything. But, that restoration didn’t happen until my husband and I both admitted that these issues could not be solved under our own strength. After many tears, prayers (more like just crying out wordlessly), counseling, talking, more tears, we both realized that we were too willing to listen to the world. You know, the voices that tell you that divorce is OK, “alternative lifestyles” are OK…and yes, I did have biblical grounds for divorce. HOWEVER…was divorce really what God wanted for us? Did He really want us to split up and just go further into sin? The answer to that was a resounding NO! So, slowly, and with a HUGE help from the Holy Spirit, we have come back to where we belong.</p>
<p>I stumbled across Psalm 51 the other night…and it hit me right between the eyes. If you’re not familiar with it…please, stop right now and read it. It’s posted on the wall above my desk. It was one of those moments when I feel God saying “STOP…sit down and listen to Me. I have the answer to what’s rolling around in your head and stressing you out. This is for Me to solve, not you…” (and yes, this happens to me quite a bit these days).</p>
<p>I’d been praying for the Lord to open doors for ministry in areas that were near and dear to my heart, and for so long, there didn’t seem to be any doors opening. I prayed over and over for these things, and the answer I always got was “not yet”. And, of course, being the impatient, imperfect human I am, I wanted to know why…now I know why. I needed to be able to be honest with myself, with the Lord and with other people. The things that I’d kept hidden, for fear of shame needed to be brought out into the open.  Once I was able to lay it all out before the Lord in prayer, to stand before Him and be able to say that I had truly messed up…in a HUGE way…and wanted so badly to make it all right before Him, He answered my prayers in so many absolutely fantastic ways! I have no idea where this road is leading, yet I will walk it firmly believing that He is guiding me each step of the way. It’s not going to be especially comfortable in some ways, but it will be right where HE wants me to be…and unlike the rich young ruler, I am willing to give up whatever it is HE wants me to give up to follow Him.</p>
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		<title>Just sayin&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know there&#8217;s been a few people who have read my blog&#8230; Please! Leave me a comment&#8230;constructive criticism, &#8220;you&#8217;re out of your mind&#8221;, anything! Thanks!<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=retirednavywife.wordpress.com&amp;blog=10960052&amp;post=46&amp;subd=retirednavywife&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know there&#8217;s been a few people who have read my blog&#8230;</p>
<p>Please! Leave me a comment&#8230;constructive criticism, &#8220;you&#8217;re out of your mind&#8221;, anything!</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Had an interesting discussion yesterday at Bible Study….</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’ve come to believe that not everyone who says the “sinner’s prayer” is automatically saved. It just seems too easy…”here, say this prayer, ask the Lord into your heart, and you’ve just punched your one way ticket to heaven”. I read John MacArthur’s book Hard To Believe and I really feel that he’s on to [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=retirednavywife.wordpress.com&amp;blog=10960052&amp;post=42&amp;subd=retirednavywife&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve come to believe that not everyone who says the “sinner’s prayer” is automatically saved. It just seems too easy…”here, say this prayer, ask the Lord into your heart, and you’ve just punched your one way ticket to heaven”.</p>
<p>I read John MacArthur’s book <span style="text-decoration:underline;">Hard To Believe</span> and I really feel that he’s on to something. There’s SO much more to following Christ. Over and over, Christ tells us that we must pick up our crosses to follow Him.</p>
<p>Following this line of thought…I thought of what Paul says in Romans 7:18  (NASB) “I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature.<sup>[<a title="See footnote a" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%207:18&amp;version=NIV#fen-NIV-28095a">a</a>]</sup> For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out.”  That is, in our sinful, natural selves, we want to do what we want to do, however, if Christ truly lives in us, we do what is the RIGHT thing to do. We don’t have to want to do it, neither do we have to be particularly “joyful” about it, but we DO have to do it.</p>
<p>I was thinking of some folks I know that claim to be Christians, but their lives would not ever prove that out. I’m thinking of an “out” homosexual who still proclaims to be “saved”. How can one be saved when one continues to live an out and out sinful lifestyle? I’m thinking of the person who is in church every time the doors are open, but will lie, cheat, and gossip once they are outside the doors. I’m thinking of the person who spends more time at work “preaching” than giving his employer an honest day’s work.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, it seems that, even in the churches, the COST of following Christ is never really mentioned. Following Christ is neither cheap nor easy. He calls us to a life where we would be willing to give EVERYTHING up for Him. Give up our comfort, our homes, our careers, our money, even our lives if necessary.  I don’t know that this is something that is truly taught in many churches.</p>
<p>It’s not about what kind of music you listen to, it’s not about the clothes you wear, it’s not about whether you smoke, have a drink of alcohol now and then; it’s not about those outward things. It’s about what’s INSIDE…your willingness to truly count the cost and pick up your cross.</p>
<p>There are many scriptures that seem to back this up, rather than the “easy way” of just saying a prayer and being good to go…for example…(all quotations are from the NASB)</p>
<p>Matt 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, &#8216;Lord, Lord,&#8217; will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.”</p>
<p>Matt 7:13-14 “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.”</p>
<p>So, there are many who think they are on the right road, and they might be, to all outward appearances. However, the truth is, they are not.</p>
<p>This is something I struggle with, hoping and praying that I am on the right road, that I will pass through the narrow gate. I know I’m not nearly what I should be, and I struggle often with what I want to do, and what I know to be the right thing to do. I pray that the Lord would cover me in His grace and mercy, and lead me down the road I know I should be on.</p>
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